i saw michele bachmann and herman cain. >> yeah. this was, if anything, tampa was a celebration of republican unity but joe is right that for every convention when you have a challenger who has gone through a primary you do have to go through this process. let's not forget in 2008 at the democratic convention 40% of democrats still wanted hillary clinton to be their nominee. >> that's right. >> that was significant division. and obviously it didn't really hurt barack obama all that much. bill: to both of you in the 30 seconds left, todd, does this make a difference and how much of a difference united versus divided or division or unity however you want to define it, how does that play out in '64 days? >> it would make a significant difference if it were true but it is not true. the fact is republicans are overwhelmingly united behind mitt romney. democrats are overwhelmingly united behind barack obama. bill: joe, give you the last word. >> whatever divisions there are they will be unified by the republican urge to defeat barack obam